![]() ![]() It reminded me of one of the AES videos from several years ago, there’s discussion of a false comparison where a large, wall type switch with a nice positive click was labeled A-B claiming to switching between some “high-end analogue system” and some “high-end digital system.” Both were playing back from, if I recall, a good, but standard CD player of the time over some normal professional-grade headphones. I trust double-blind or ABX testing though.Įxcellent testing set-up. That’s what happens when people truly not only don’t know if they’re listening to A or B, but also don’t know if it’s the same from what they just heard.Īs far as bias goes I trust my ears as far as I can throw them (not far). Nobody consistently even separated A from B, let alone identified which was analog and which was digital. I said nothing about the order, and the name in the region wasn’t obvious. I then had several people listen to that 8 or 12 bar loop (I forget how long it was) and write down what was what and how they felt about it. Then I took the analog and digital versions, “A” and “D” and strung them out on a timeline in Pro Tools. I set both up so that they got similar amount of compression for the same input level. I recorded a drum kit and sent the drums through a bus with either the real thing or the software. I once tested my real Neve 33609 stereo compressor with Universal Audio’s UAD-2 emulation of it. The other, and very often most powerful, variable that needs to be taken into account is Cognitive/Confirmation Bias… Unless a listening test is conducted double blind then the results are essentially meaningless. Unless you’re changing the level at some point you won’t be able to tell the difference. Ever.Īnd again: The way to figure out if that’s the case is NOT to add things like effects and VSTi, you just import files, pan them hard left or hard right, then sum those signals together in each DAW, and then you compare the resulting files. So, if you’re saying that Cubase and Logic sums signals differently then you’re just wrong. people still thought they heard a difference.the technical difference that exists is so low it can’t be perceived.people can’t tell the difference between DAWs. ![]() It’s been probably over a decade since there was a big test on exactly summation, comparing DAWs of different makes and models as well as expensive analog and digital mixing consoles. In Cubase, the highs and lows felt more upfront. ![]() It definitely felt related to the summation of all the audio. There was a difference in the ‘raw’ tracks, but I’m open to the idea of a lurking factor in settings. So, you didn’t use anything on the master, but you used midi connected to VSTi? How do you know that what you’re hearing is the difference of the “audio engine” and not the “midi engine” or the VSTi themselves? You wrote: “the exact same MIDI and VSTs”. ![]() You’re either doing something wrong, or there’s something wrong with your setup, or you’re imagining things.īut you really have to eliminate things that aren’t part of the audio engine. The only technical difference would possibly be dithering, and even if that is a difference it’ll be inaudible because it’ll exist below the noise floor of whatever room you’re listening in. Two DAWs just exporting the same file with zero processing should sound exactly the same unless something is wrong. I’ll just have to say then that if you’re truly measuring the “audio engine” then I just don’t believe you. That way, everyone is happy.So, I think your test is pretty meaningless unless you know for a fact exactly how those processors work so that the comparison makes sense.īut my primary test was a raw export without any plugins, remember? Did I not do what you’re describing? Instead of being a fanboy of one in particular, realize that nobody gives a fuck about why you think one DAW sucks and that someone with a crappy laptop and Audacity is making better stuff than you while he’s half asleep.ĭon’t create divisions within the music making community. If you have access to one, two, or all three, use each one to their benefit. Knowing the strengths of all of them, it allows us all to make the most out of each. It allows me to have an uber-fast workflow which is always a plus.Įach DAW has their drawbacks and strengths. Live allows me to generate ideas on the fly and do whatever I want with or to them. Logic’s writing style is quite linear which isn’t ideal for me but I’m fine with that. Logic has some great effects built in as well, and the ES2 needs no further accolades. I use Reason as a plugin mainly, because all the effects and synths within it sound awesome. I use all three – Logic and Reason on my University’s computers and Live at home. ![]()
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